Agenda and minutes

Venue: Civic Centre, Gravesend, Kent

Contact: Committee Section  Email: committee.section@gravesham.gov.uk

Items
No. Item

141.

Councillor Colin Caller - Chair of Gravesham Joint Transportation Board

Minutes:

The Board observed a minutes silence as a mark of respect for Cllr Colin Caller who had recently passed away.

 

The Board also took time to reflect on all those who had been affected by the Coronavirus.

 

142.

Apologies

Minutes:

Apologies for absence were received from County Cllr Diane Marsh, County Cllr Bryan Sweetland, Cllr Leslie Hills and Mr Jason Mee - Director (Transport Operative) for RedRoute Buses.

143.

To sign the minutes of the previous meeting pdf icon PDF 79 KB

Minutes:

The minutes of the meeting held on 9 January 2020 were signed by the Chair.

144.

To declare any interests members may have in the items contained on this agenda. When declaring an interest members should state what their interest is.

Minutes:

No declarations of interest were made.

145.

Report back items outstanding from previous meeting(s)

Minute 124. Corner Protection (Yellow Lines) at the junction of Cob Drive and Forge Lane - Requested by Cllr Bob Lane

County Cllr Sweetland advised he had a Member Highways Grant and would be happy to use this resource to pay for the installation of double yellow lines on the corner at the junction of Cob Lane and Forge Lane in Shorne. However, he only made this offer if the work could be carried out within a reasonable timescale of 4 months.

Minute 125. Regular Parking Enforcement - Requested by Cllr Bob Lane

Cllr Lane noted that this subject had already been discussed and he would await information from the Parking Services Manager in relation to CEO visits to parishes.

Minute 127. The Hill, Northfleet - Speeding issues and Accidents - Requested by Cllr PeterScollard

The Programme Manager Schemes, Planning & Delivery (KCC) clarified that KCC do liaise regularly with Ebbsfleet Development Corporation (EDC) to make sure highways improvement proposals marry up.

The Programme Manager Schemes, Planning & Delivery (KCC) advised that a fixed speed camera option will be discussed with the relevant KCC department and the outcome will be reported back to the Board.

A response was received on behalf of Matthew Payne which is set out below:

Thank you for your letter of 24 January 2020 regarding safety cameras in Kent.

In the past five years three camera enforcement devices were installed in Kent. An average Speed Camera system was installed at A28 Brooksend, Thanet, with Red Light monitoring cameras installed at two locations, Cheriton Road Folkestone and A254 Margate Road/Princes Road, Ramsgate. These were all installed following clear evidence emerging that speed related crashes at those locations could be reduced by the introduction of enforcement by cameras.

The Kent and Medway Safety Camera Partnership do not normally sanction the introduction of cameras where there is no clear evidence that they would reduce serious or fatal speed related crashes, over a 1.5km stretch of road, in a three-year period. The criteria for safety cameras can be found at the safety camera partnership website – www.kmscp.org.

There are no plans at the moment to change these criteria, which are very similar across the country, but officers have been asked to investigate the area of The Hill, Northfleet as requested.

Thank you for raising this matter and I hope that this answers your questions.

Yours sincerely

Michael Payne
Member for Tonbridge
Cabinet Member for Highways and Transport
Kent County Council

Minute  134.   RedRoute Buses – deferred from last meeting

In the absence of Mr Jason Mee – Director (Transport Operative) for RedRoute Buses, the Chair deferred this item to the next meeting of the Board.

Please see agenda item 6

Minute 135. Highways Works Programme 2019/20 onwards (Information only)

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) will look into the Lion roundabout issues raised by Cllr Hills; including a stop sign where vehicles exit Dering Way. The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) will report back to Cllr  ...  view the full agenda text for item 145.

Minutes:

Minute 124. Corner Protection (Yellow Lines) at the junction of Cob Drive and Forge Lane - Requested by Cllr Bob Lane

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) explained that he had received some correspondence from the Parish council that the consultation had started and he is awaiting further information on this matter.

Cllr Bob Lane advised the Board that the consultation will end in 6 weeks.

 

Minute 125. Regular Parking Enforcement - Requested by Cllr Bob Lane

The Parking Services Manager explained that he had circulated the latest enforcement sheets for additional patrols that the Civil Enforcement Officers have been making at Shorne Country Park and Jeskyns.  The observation sheets show the days the patrols have been made and what action was taken.

To summarise since 20 July 2019 to 06 March 2020:

Jeskyns – 128 visits and 100 Penalty Charge Notices issued.

Shorne  - 61 Visits and 1 Penalty Charge Notice issued.

Cllr Bob Lane advised that he thought that in the case of Shorne Country Park there is more of a traffic regulation order issue and there have been some talks about extending yellow lines.

 

Minute 127. The Hill, Northfleet - Speeding issues and Accidents - Requested by Cllr Peter Scollard

A response was received on behalf of Michael Payne which is set out below:

Thank you for your letter of 24 January 2020 regarding safety cameras in Kent.

In the past five years three camera enforcement devices were installed in Kent. An average Speed Camera system was installed at A28 Brooksend, Thanet, with Red Light monitoring cameras installed at two locations, Cheriton Road Folkestone and A254 Margate Road/Princes Road, Ramsgate. These were all installed following clear evidence emerging that speed related crashes at those locations could be reduced by the introduction of enforcement by cameras.

The Kent and Medway Safety Camera Partnership do not normally sanction the introduction of cameras where there is no clear evidence that they would reduce serious or fatal speed related crashes, over a 1.5km stretch of road, in a three-year period. The criteria for safety cameras can be found at the safety camera partnership website – www.kmscp.org.

There are no plans at the moment to change these criteria, which are very similar across the country, but officers have been asked to investigate the area of The Hill, Northfleet as requested.

Thank you for raising this matter and I hope that this answers your questions.

Yours sincerely

Michael Payne
Member for Tonbridge
Cabinet Member for Highways and Transport
Kent County Council

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) explained that whilst there clearly wouldn’t be a change in policy; additional Automatic Traffic Counts have been completed and he is waiting for the results.

County Cllr Lauren Sullivan suggested that alternatives to a speed camera should be explored (e.g. pelican crossing)

Cllr Scollard advised the Board that there had been another three accidents since this matter was last reported and requested an update on the widening / heightening of an  ...  view the full minutes text for item 145.

146.

RedRoute Buses - deferred from last meeting

Arriva are regularly invited to present information about their service and answer questions but some routes in the Borough are served by Redroute buses. Therefore, the Redroute Bus Company Ltd has been invited to attend the meeting.

Minutes:

The Board noted that Mr Jason Mee – Director (Transport Operative) for RedRoute Buses had submitted his apologies again and there was no further update on this matter.

 

147.

Highways Works Programme 2019/20 onwards (Information only) pdf icon PDF 150 KB

Minutes:

At the last meeting The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) said he would look into the Lion roundabout issues raised by Cllr Hills; including a stop sign where vehicles exit Dering Way.

 

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) explained that this work had not been done because there is now potential that Highways England will make amendments to the roundabout as part of the Lower Thames Crossing. If Highways England does not do their works then KCC can revisit this matter, higher railings with a window for increased visibility may be an option.

At the last meeting The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) agreed to look into the Springhead / Sainsbury’s roundabout where poor visibility and speeding cars are creating dangerous conditions.

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) explained that this matter had been looked at but the information hadn’t been received yet. The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) will report back on this matter at next meeting and provide County Cllr Burden with an update as soon as possible.

 

148.

Any Other Business which by reason of special circumstances the Chair is of the opinion should be considered as a matter of urgency.

Minutes:

Whitehill Traffic Issues – raised by Cllr Tony Rana

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) explained that an internal KCC meeting has been held in the Whitehill Road area and there is clearly a problem with traffic at peak times.

 

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) hasn’t been able to arrange a ‘walk around’ the area with Cllr Rana yet but he will try to arrange this in the near future.

 

149.

RedRoute Buses - deferred from last meeting

Minutes:

The Board noted that Mr Jason Mee – Director (Transport Operative) for RedRoute Buses had submitted his apologies again and there was no further update on this matter.

 

150.

Highways Works Programme 2019/20 onwards (Information only)

Minutes:

The Board was presented with a report that provided an update on identified schemes approved for construction in 2019/20.

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) highlighted the following:

·         The machine resurfacing works will also include Wrotham Road which will be closed for 6 to 8 weeks during the summer holidays. There will also be a clause that the road cannot be dug up for 5 years after the completion of these works.

The first phase of works will cover The Woodlands Beefeater through to Essex Road.

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) will send round the resurfacing plans to Members.

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) agreed to liaise with the Parking Services Manager (GBC) on these works due to the recent Controlled Parking Zone changes.

·         The temporary tarmac in Windmill Street (next to Community Square) will be replaced with blocks.

·         The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) agreed that he would look into providing the same resurfacing material used on Colyer Road for St Marks Avenue

·         There will be a report submitted to the next meeting of the Board on flooding / drainage in Culverstone. The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) agreed to provide County Cllr Burden with the Section 19 report (regarding drainage improvements) on this matter by Wednesday.

·         Notice has been served on the Texaco garage in Perry Street regarding the drainage of soapy water. They have 28 days after the notice has been served to do the works after which KCC will do the works and charge them for it.

·         The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) agreed to look into an issue with faulty reflective bollards at Rosherville.

·         The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) advised the Board that there is a programme for cleaning signs in the Borough.

 

The Board noted the report

 

151.

Fastrack Update

Minutes:

Shane HymerFastrack Development Manager – KCC provided the Board with a verbal update, which was supported by Michael Jennings - Arriva – Area Head of Commercial.

The update included:

 

·         Garrick Street Fastrack Upgrades

·         Springhead Bridge

·         Proposed Fastrack autonomous shuttle trial

·         Mobility as a Service (Southeastern/Arriva/KCC Partnership)

·         Electric Buses

·         TfL services

 

 

Following questions from the Board; the Fastrack Development Manager highlighted the following:

 

·         Significant changes have been made to the timetable recently and the service continues to be fine-tuned.

·         Barrock Rd / Barrock Street Bus Hub: Fastrack will fund canopies on both sides in Gravesham colours as well as an interactive display / real time bus boards.

·         Springhead Bridge: Fastrack are scheduled to serve the bridge from April 26

and will give every resident a Fastrack pack to encourage them to try the service.

·         Autonomous shuttle trial on Fastrack: this is in the early stages and is a test bed for innovation.

·         Electric buses: bidding for Ebbsfleet to be one of the UK’s first electric bus town

·         Pantograph charging will be used for the electric buses

·         There are plans at Ebbsfleet Station, not immediate but is on the list for future works

·         The customer survey scores weren’t perfect but when benchmarked against other services they are good for the industry.

·         Bus Apps will be improved to provide clearer information on bus locations etc.

 

Parking Services Manager (GBC) explained that at the last meeting of the Board, he sought approval to replace bus gate enforcement that GBC would be administering ourselves which KCC approved. Lorna Day is doing the agreement with the legal team and this matter could be added into that. The cameras would need to be compatible with GBC’s systems / back office.

 

The Board thanked Shane HymerFastrack Development Manager – KCC and Michael Jennings - Arriva – Area Head of Commercial for an informative presentation.

 

152.

Notice of Intention for installing/removing disabled bays at various locations across the Borough

Minutes:

The Parking Services Manager (GBC) presented the Board with a Notice of Intention for installing/removing disabled bays at various locations across the Borough, as detailed in the notice.

 

The Board supported the installing/removing disabled bays at various locations across the Borough, as detailed in the notice.

 

153.

Any Other Business which by reason of special circumstances the Chair is of the opinion should be considered as a matter of urgency

Minutes:

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) advised the Board that if they wish to report any potholes in the Borough; please contact him. If residents wish to report potholes they should be signposted to the website / App.

 

 

The District Manager – Gravesham (KCC) agreed to work with the Gravesham Access Group regarding dropped kerbs etc.